Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev

Trust Your Gut with Lisa Garcia

March 25, 2024 Morgan Franklin Media Season 3 Episode 44
Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev
Trust Your Gut with Lisa Garcia
Show Notes Transcript

Join Kosta and his guest: Lisa Garcia, Owner of Cleanse Wellness Spa, National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach, National Board Credentialed Colon Hydrotherapist and a Certified Electro Lymphatic Therapist from California Coastal Cleansing Institute in San Diego.

In this episode: More than 80% of our immune system is in the gut, and when your gut isn't healthy, your immune system and hormones can’t function properly. In your experience, what are the real life consequences of having a poorly managed digestive system? When it comes to anything related to the colon, rectum or butt in general people can feel a bit skittish. (No pun intended.) For anyone that’s feeling anxiety about how the insertion or evacuation process works, smells or feels. What’s your advice? On a day-to-day basis what benefits do your regular customers see from Colon Hydrotherapy and how has it improved their lives?

Find out more about Lisa Garcia and Cleanse Wellness Spa:
https://cleansewellnessspa.com

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Lisa Garcia:

Our body doesn't know the difference between being in a carpool lane late to pick up our kid and being charged by the daycare or being in trouble with a teacher or us being chased by a lion. It has no it does not discriminate on it doesn't know the difference. It doesn't care. It's going to put you in that fight or flight who just stops your digestion so that your energy can go to your arms and legs and you can fight.

Morgan Franklin:

Welcome to Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev, a podcast on parenting business and living life intentionally. We're here every week to bring you thoughtful conversation, making your own path to success, challenging the status quo, and finding all the ways we're better together. Here's your host, Kosta Yepifantsev.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Hey y'all, it's Kosta. Today I'm here with my guest, Lisa Garcia, owner of Cleanse Wellness Spa, National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach, national board credentialed colon hydrotherapist and a certified electrical lymphatic therapist from California Coastal cleansing Institute in San Diego, Lisa, more than 80% of our immune system is in the gut. And when your gut isn't healthy, your immune system and hormones can't function properly. In your experience, what are the real life consequences of having a poorly managed digestive system?

Lisa Garcia:

So Kosta - I'm I'm looking at so many different, a myriad of health issues, right? So nutritional deficiencies is a huge one. So it's not absorbing your guts not absorbing nutrients properly. And so that malabsorption is causing all kinds of problems because the essential vitamins and minerals and nutrients are not getting where they need to be. And so that causes fatigue, it causes a weakened immune system, which our immune system is, it's our number one fan is what it is, and it's supposed to keep us healthy. But with an imbalanced gut and nutritional deficiencies. We already have compromised food, right? So already our food is not nutritious, but when you eat anything, any vitamins and minerals have gotta go where they need to be in your gut. And so that's one of the biggest things. So the weakened immune systems if the fatigue and of course, it impairs growth of stem cells and other things in your body. That's a big one, digestive disorders. They're huge. They're running rampant. Everyone has reflux that gastrointestinal, you know, disorder, GERD, irritable bowel syndrome, IBS, almost all of my clients have some sort of IBS symptoms. There's inflammatory bowel disease, like Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis. And that is very dangerous, can cause leaky gut as well. So that's when the poisons are coming through, right? So the blood is not clean anymore, because the mucosal membrane of the colon is not doing its job. So

Kosta Yepifantsev:

is there a hole in the colon essentially, that causes leaky gut, like I've always heard that term, but I've always wondered what it was. It's

Lisa Garcia:

not a whole, it's more like little tears. Okay, so our mucosal melt membrane in our colon is very, very thick, and it's got a thick layer of mucus that's supposed to protect us from all of the poisons and toxins because our colon is the most toxic place in our body. When our gut is compromised. That mucosal membrane can thin out and little tears can present themselves, and toxins can escape into our bloodstream through the colon. And that's leaky gut, and that can cause a whole host of other problems.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Why do more people not know that a proper diet is going to affect their overall quality of life? Like why do people just focus on exercise myself being one of them, and not necessarily focusing on eating the right things?

Lisa Garcia:

I feel like people think that they can get away with it. Okay, like, that's really I feel like, I think that they can get away with it. And I feel like it used to be at 8020 was, you know, pretty, okay. 80% of the time you're eating balanced meals, you're you're not shoving food down your throat without chewing properly. You're not eating right before you go to bed and snacking, people that are health conscious for people that want to feel better. They were doing those things. But people are so busy now and the quality of food that they have at their fingertips is so compromised. And even organic things can't really be trusted to have A lot of organic ingredients, but only a portion. So I feel like more people are just thinking that they can get away with it. They're thinking, Well, you know, I had a couple of salads this week. And they don't realize that all the animal products are so hard to digest. And I'm not saying that you can't digest them. I'm saying that it's harder to digest. A true carnivore has a digestive system from mouth to anus of nine feet. And small intestine by itself is 23 feet or colon six feet, it doesn't even count the esophagus. And so people are gulping their food down and expecting our body to do miracles. And our bodies are miraculous, but they can only do

Kosta Yepifantsev:

and I'll be honest, I mean, the last few months, especially I've noticed myself getting tired, if if I don't get all eight hours of sleep, I'm exhausted. And I exercise daily, you know, I'm running a lot, usually about six miles a day. And I'm trying to do intermittent fasting. But because I've been so busy, I've been eating late, like sometimes at 11 o'clock at night, just because I'm so hungry, and I need something in my stomach before I fall asleep. And I wake up the next day, and I feel bad. So what happens when you eat late, and then you go straight to bed.

Lisa Garcia:

So if you eat within two to three hours of going to bed, your digestion is slow. So it's supposed to be slow, based on the rhythm of our bodies. In a perfect world, you should be asleep by 10 o'clock PM, that's what your body is meant to do. So you shouldn't be eating past six or seven, because it goes into a rest and digest mode. And then that rest and digest mode. It's a repair mode. So if you fill your body with food, and expect it to mitigate that food and digest that food at the same as in the middle of the day, it's not going to do that. So when you wake up, you're essentially still digesting food, and you didn't get any repair work done at all. Really?

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Yes. Okay. So see, these are all things that I don't know, because I think I'm doing everything right. I think I'm getting eight hours of sleep. I think I'm working a lot. I think I'm exercising regularly. So you know, I should be fit as a fiddle. And but my body is still performing relatively well. You know, I mean, granted, maybe I'm 34. So I'm sure it probably still has a little bit of runway. But what happens long term, if you don't follow those types of guidelines, you know, if you go to sleep super late, it's not just focusing on a diet, but just generally don't diet at all, what's your body going to do when you turn 65? Way before

Lisa Garcia:

65, you're going to start getting low level inflammation in your body, and your body is going to fight back, it's going to fight against itself. That's why so many people have autoimmune conditions right now. And there's a whole host of them. We have been told in our family, from our grandparents that you're supposed to eat breakfast, like a king and lunch like a queen and dinner like a poor person. And that's really true. So we should not be eating our heaviest meal. And we don't need three meals a day, by the way. I mean, my grandparents were eating three meals a day, because that's what they were trained to do. But in reality, if you study the Blue Zones book, which is you know, gut health was the number one thing that everybody had in common in that book. So from wherever they were from, whether they were Eskimos that had no vegetation, and they only ate fish and seal or whatever they were in Italy, certain places in Italy, they would eat fish, and some people wouldn't they would you see pasta and cheese, but based on their DNA and where they were from the indigenous people, their gut health was perfect. And that's how they were so healthy for so many more years than we are. So it is not necessary for us to even eat close to three meals a day. How many meals are you supposed to eat? I believe it's really healthy to do a variation of intermittent fasting, okay, it depends on what you're doing. So if you're doing an 18 hour fast, you could probably do lunch and a light dinner. If you're doing a 12 hour fast, you could do three meals that they should be small. Then there's the ADF fasting that I've talked about which alternate day fasting, which is really great for fighting disease, inflammation in the body, rejuvenate stem cells. 36 hour fasts are amazing as well. You know, a 36 hour fast is like the premium fasting, if you could do one of those a week along with some different intermittent fasting, I feel like you would really supercharge your body because you're giving your body a chance to repair it cannot be in a repair mode and digest food at the same time. It won't do that.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

And it's like a car. If you drive your car 24 hours a day, seven days a week, every minute of every day, eventually the car is going to blow up and our digestion is no different. So if we just keep feeding ourselves, you know, over and over and over again. It's going to have negative negative implications on our health.

Lisa Garcia:

It does and actually putting that much strain on our body has been linked to so many things dementia, any type of low level inflammation, like I said before autoimmune diseases obesity and Anyone is so sick. I mean, in a country where we have so much food at our disposal, people are eating nonstop. 24 hours a day, gas station food, fast food. And we're really not supposed to be doing that. We're supposed to be giving our body a break. We're supposed to be eating like handful our stomach is like the size of our fist. So the fact that we sit down and meet at Texas Roadhouse, first of all, we're gonna it's an appetizer of some fried onion. And I'm like, Oh, my gosh, and help, please no. And then I just ate with my daughter's in laws recently. And I was like, stop. Oh, yeah, stop eating for sure. A fried onion, just big giant fried onion, and then a big fat piece of steak with loaded mashed potatoes with all kinds of pork products on those. And then of course, they're drinking two glasses of sweet tea or coke. And I'm like, your insulin, your insulin, your your your pancreas.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Where did where did we learn this behavior, though? I mean, my parents. I mean, they bought soda. But when I got older, I was just like, Yeah, I don't think I should be drinking this much soda. I don't. It doesn't make me feel good. And I listen to my body. So I mean, I'm assuming that people listen to how their body is doing just generally on how they feel. And they make adjustments.

Lisa Garcia:

No, that's what you do. Because you're smart. And you're health conscious. People actually do not do that. They come to me, and they've got brain fog and fatigue, and they don't feel good, and they're gassy. And they, they have no idea to what they're eating, they have no idea that they don't understand it at all. And they're super smart people, but they're always eating on the go. They're never chewing their food. I mean, I'm I'm doing colonics and I'm looking at whole pieces of food come out of people. I'm like, so you had tomatoes and kale, that's good. I can see a hot dog. It's like you can see these people what they're eating. Right now not long hotdog, but chunks of food should have been digested by the stomach, which or not.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

And if they don't get digested by the stomach, then the nutrients can be absorbed.

Lisa Garcia:

Well, the stomach is responsible for chemical digestion. So there's a small amount of chemical digestion that goes on in the mouth. So you've got the proteins, you got different enzymes in your mouth that breaks down fats and sugars. But then you're supposed to chew your food like 25 times and nobody's doing that. And then the food passes along. Yeah, exactly. Everyone's in a hurry that the food passes down the esophagus. It's called a bolus. And then it goes into that chemical digestion of the stomach, which is chyme. And then it's put through the small intestine, which is 23 feet long. There's no bacteria in there, its only job is to use the microvilli and absorb nutrients, nothing is absorbed nutritionally in the stomach, or in the colon. It's all done in the small intestine. So if you are going your food down hole, and you've got low stomach acid, your pH is off. So a lot of people when they get heartburn, they don't realize you have low stomach acid, not too much. Your body's not pH balanced properly. So it's it's pushing through seeing things through the small intestine. And most of the things that people are eating these days have no nutritional value. I mean, like a McDonald's cheeseburger, like where's the nutrition and there's nothing popcorn is I mean, it depends.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I mean, that's kind of a go to in our household. That's why I ask and I've heard that popcorn doesn't have any nutritional value, it just has calories. Well,

Lisa Garcia:

it doesn't have nutritional value. It's an empty carb, and especially if it's a genetically modified popcorn, that's microwave in a microwave bag, which is so bad for your health and people are just eating it. My husband and I we fist fight over it. I'm like Tim, that your hands. He's like, No, I love it. It's butter lovers. I said you're gonna use this kind and I bought it the Amish store. You know the GMO, non GMO, and they will and I'm telling you something, I actually had a woman come in and get a colonic for me. And it was like her second or third colonic and she called me in there. She was buzzing the buzzer. And I came in and she goes look at all that corn. And I said, Well Corn is Green it. It's got an outer shell it doesn't really digest properly. She goes No, I haven't had corn in two weeks since my daughter's baby shower. We had a Mexican corn salad. And I haven't had corn at all. And she had already had three colonics with a ton of waste come out. So what does that mean? It just means that her food is not being properly digested or processed. The corn is probably stuck in the diverticulitis, which is the little ridges inside the colon. And when that happens, then you're starting to get diverticulitis, diverticulosis and other problems with your digestion that can cause major inflammatory bowel problems in your body. What

Kosta Yepifantsev:

are some long term diseases that come from not taking care of your body not taking care of your gut? Well,

Lisa Garcia:

of course we know about Crohn's disease and we know about what actually matters. So Crohn's disease is an inflammatory condition of the bowel, and it's when the bowel stays chronically inflamed. And it's actually really dangerous because an inflammatory bowel disease like Crohn's or colitis, which is another thing ulcerative colitis, it thins the wall of the colon. So you're more apt to need colon removal surgery so that you will have part of your colon removed or that inflammatory part is. And some people I mean, I met a woman from Knoxville at 38 years old, that their doctor, her GI doctor wanted to put an ileostomy bag. So they were removing part of her ilium, which is the last part of the small intestine going into that part of the bowel, right the beginning of the bowel. And they sent her to me to get empty, because she had been on laxatives for her whole life, and her colon would not empty on its own. And they couldn't do the surgery properly, because they were afraid that she would die of sepsis because as soon as you rip that colon open, and the waste goes into the bloodstream, it's over for you mean you die, you can die very quickly, she would have rather have had that than give me a chance to revive her colon with like 12 colonics, even though I offered to give it to her at half price. Why? Because she wanted to believe in that medical procedure, that that would save her life. And she thought, well, I won't be constipated anymore. I can just poop in this bag. And she know what happened. She never came in at all. Okay, we have a lot of phone conversations. And she never came in

Kosta Yepifantsev:

at all. You don't know if she made it through the surgery or not. I don't know. I mean, you can't live Can you live with half a colon, you

Lisa Garcia:

can live but it's not going to be a good quality of life. And it's not going to be a full long life. It's not going to be because it continues to breach. I mean, there are people that have had partial parts of their colon removed from colon cancer. Chris Wark, he's a big colon cancer survivor. He has a book in a coaching program called crispy cancer, he had stage three colon cancer at 26 years old. And he did have surgery to remove, I believe part of the colon. But since then he went on a vegan diet, he didn't do any type of chemotherapy or anything like that, or radiation and he is still surviving, I think it's almost 20 years later. So he's got a coaching protocol for that. And a lot of people are finding that they're living longer, because you can't do medical, colon cancer treatment, and expect to have a long term lasting result without making dietary changes and lifestyle changes including stress.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

So with regards to colon cancer, and stomach cancer, I mean, my father in law had cancer. And I'm sure he doesn't mind me sharing this, but he had radiation and chemotherapy on his throat, because he had throat cancer, and he lost. He lost his tastebuds. And he can't taste food. So imagine getting to 72 years old, and not being able to taste food. And the guy was a great cook, too. So what type of overarching impact as radiation and chemotherapy have when it's being beamed into your midsection? Well,

Lisa Garcia:

I'll tell you, people after surviving such a huge ordeal, the trauma to the body of having part of your colon removed, and then having chemotherapy and then having radiation. It is not a happy life after that, and they never are normal. They're never back to the way they were. And as far as your father in law goes, here's someone that that is a cook, you said a good cook. Yeah. And part of our senses, part of the enjoyment of life food is to be enjoyed. And like in our country, we eat it really fast, and we're cognitive down. But in other countries, a meal will take three hours, I mean, they'll just be there together and the socialization piece, and just the community piece in the fellowship with their family or friends. And the taste of the food is a huge deal. Like they'll spend hours preparing a meal. And it's a whole, it's a whole big thing that they do to get all their senses satisfied, not just eating to be full and overly full. So your poor father in law now has lost that ability to really taste some of his favorite things, all of his favorite things. It's just napalmed his body. Yeah, and and I'm glad that he's still alive in this country, when they ring the bell, because you're cancer free after they're doing, you know, cancer treatment on you. You're considered a cure, if you can live after that bell is rung for five years. But if you die five years, and a week later, they still considered you a cure, and they're gonna check off that box, that you got breast cancer, and they cured you from breast cancer with this type of chemo, and radiation. But you'll be dead in the sixth year. Let's just say they still cured you.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

So we're talking about all the issues and the diseases that come from not taking care of your gut. So let's change course and talk about the flip side. How can we repair our gut and prevent these types of illnesses? And how does all of that work?

Lisa Garcia:

Well, I want to make sure that people know that it's not just a physical problem. A lot of mental problems happen because the gut is imbalanced because of the gut brain connection that gut brain access. If things are not being properly absorbed, then we're not feeling great. And if we try to take a Prozac or is involved or something else to try to fix that. It's not going to fix it. So a lot of people are presenting with depression and anxiety, especially anxiety. I have people that come to me and they're constipated, and they're very anxious people, very anxious. And they've had anxiety disorders and through a series of colonics for a couple of years, even, they're completely medicine free, and they're happy and they're healthy. And because they're not constipated, and they're moving their bowels properly and things are not in a dysbiosis state. Now your question was, how can we take care of our guts. So number one, slow down when we're eating, and be mindful of what you're eating, and read, be mindful of what time of the day you're eating, and don't eat in a stressed state. Because when you're in a stressed state, so I have people that come in to me, and they eat really well. And they drink a lot of water, and they exercise, but they're still having issues with their bloating or brain fog, or constipation, or whatever. And their problem is that they're coming in for a colonic, and they're putting their laptop on their lap while they're doing their colonic. And there's lawyers, I mean, lawyers are the word, I'm sorry, to my clients that are lawyers, I'm not gonna give your name, I'm gonna tell you, they just they and they just don't have the ability to turn off that fight or flight. So when we are in a stress, place it our body doesn't know the difference between being in a carpool lane, late to pick up our kid and being charged by the daycare being in trouble with the teacher, or us being chased by a lion. It has no it does not discriminate on it doesn't know the difference, it doesn't care, it's going to put you in that fight or flight what just stops your digestion so that your energy can go to your arms and legs and you can fight I mean, that's what it thinks you're doing. It's you're you're running away. And so that's why intermittent fasting is so amazing as well, because it puts your body in a state of ease. It's not, it's not overworking.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

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Lisa Garcia:

and busy is is the worst curse word anymore. Because busy is what's keeping us from enjoying life. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Eating fermented foods is a huge thing. If you can't eat yogurt, because you can't eat dairy, then eat some sauerkraut make your own. You don't even have to have the processed stuff at the grocery store. It's super easy. It's like salt and cabbage and water. Okay, or something like I mean, you can Google it. Yeah, so fermented foods like kefir, kombucha, sauerkraut, even pickles, that really helps the gut microbiome to reproduce, especially after any type of antibiotics. Take a good probiotic, but take a prebiotic probiotic that. So you got to feed the probiotic gotta feed the good bacteria what they want to eat, so they can thrive. But I'm not really into the pill, you can get anything you need. I mean, a good probiotic is really great for people nowadays, because everyone's eating on the run, and everyone's eating a lot of dead food. And so their enzymes are low, and there's all kinds of stuff with that. But if you're eating consciously, if you're eating purposely, and stop eating too late, we talked about that and keep your body hydrated. And also fiber fiber fiber fiber, there's no fiber in a cheeseburger, there's none, that little piece of lettuce and that little slice of tomato is not going to do it for you. That's why in many countries, and even here, we're supposed to eat a salad first. Those are those natural enzymes that are kicking our bodies in to help us digest and break down that food if we only the carnivore diet. Where are we getting the and I'm not saying it's a bad diet. Everyone's like, oh, I beat cancer with a camera or diet. You probably did. That's great. But that's not for everybody. Remember, we talked about the blue zones. So everyone's diet is not the same. You're from Russia. So if you've got grandparents that lived to be 100 years old, what did what did they eat? What was their lifestyle? Like?

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I mean, everybody that I can picture in my family that lived in Russia were very active because they couldn't afford a car. So they had to walk everywhere. Or if they took the train, it was like, you know, you get off at the stop and then you got to go walk a mile to wherever you're wherever you're going. Um, but that's in Germany too. That's all across Europe and Asia. And we ate a lot of salted food, preserved food. We ate a lot of salt. But nobody was taking like high blood pressure meds. Yep. And nobody was suffering from hypertension. I mean, not like significantly to the best of my knowledge. It's just like when we're talking about this, I'm trying to think in my mind like, Okay, well, when am I going to be able to find time to be able to do this balanced diet the right way. So the only thing that I can assume from from my vantage point is just fast. Just don't eat

Lisa Garcia:

fast thing is very good. But when you refuel, make sure you have something good because here like you were saying, the walking right here, somebody will circle the Walmart parking lot for 20 minutes to get that close spot to the door, right? Instead of just parking in the back and walking, it takes two minutes. And why would you want to shop at Walmart anyway? I mean, they do have an organic section. I'm kind of excited about that. I mean, I'm from California. So whenever I can get organic fruits and vegetables. I like the farmer's market here. They sell all year round. We have tower gardens growing in our downstairs, which are like hydroponic tower gardens. I have like so much kale. My family's like, I'm not eating all that kale. And I said, Yes, you are. So we have to figure out ways to do it. Be creative. You don't have to, you know, eat like a bird. Fasting is amazing. But you're going to want to keep your strength up because you do a lot of exercising, right. So like we said, if you fail to plan you plan to fail, what can you put together for yourself? I mean, meal planning for someone that's not overeating can probably take a couple of hours on a weekend. If you're a busy baby on a weeknight, maybe the kids could help you hey, let's look at some stuff online and see, what can you help me with? You know, can you help me cut the vegetables? Can you help me make the soup or whatever it is? Having good food from your house, that source at home? That's whole food based. And not with a bunch of preservatives, if it's got more than five ingredients in it, and you can't pronounce it, I would keep it to that. That was at 20 I would keep it to that 20% But if you walk around in a grocery store right now, and you see what people have in their carts, it's no wonder all the kids are medicated and everyone is feeling lousy with brain fog and everything

Kosta Yepifantsev:

and wait, so no more eating cereal for breakfast cereals like the worst. Okay, bad you hear that? No cereal is

Lisa Garcia:

there's no protein in it. First of all, we need protein to keep our muscles up. And there could be some fiber, but I feel like it hits your body really quickly. Because it's a carb. It's a simple carb. Usually. I mean, I know they tried to say that there's healthy cereals but

Kosta Yepifantsev:

oatmeal. Yeah, oatmeal is good rolled, rolled. Oh, that's

Lisa Garcia:

a slow burning car. Yeah, you can put some fruit inside of it. Berries, low glycemic, you know, maybe put a little bit of flaxseed on the top that'll help you move it through that colon.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

So last question, and then we're gonna move on to the treatments, we're gonna move on to cleanse if I was somebody listening to the show, and I was like, You know what, today's the day, I'm going to start fasting. And I'm going to start eating healthier, so that my gut is healthier. And I'm gonna love myself in that category. Do you start by just like eating soup and bread? Or? I mean, what would you recommend would be a good way to have the most impact on the health of your gut? through food? Not necessarily anything else that we could implement today? What type of food would that be? Well,

Lisa Garcia:

it wouldn't be coffee, first thing in the morning, I would be awake for at least an hour, hour and a half before I had any coffee. And you might want to, after your hot shower, turn the cold water on and get that lymphatic system going help process that coffee because otherwise, you're going to create a cortisol spike. And I would definitely would start out your breakfast with protein. So if you're going to be eating in the morning at all, I would probably wait till after 11 o'clock if you were going to eat but if you can't, I would eat protein eggs. Okay, something like that. I don't know. So doesn't necessarily have to be bacon and eggs, but eggs with some vegetables in it an omelet for Tata, something like that. And if you have to be quick, a protein bar of some sort that's really sustainably sourced, right? A protein bar that has really clean ingredients in it is good. But don't just start out with that coffee because it's going to spike that cortisol right up. And that starts you into that fight or flight for the day. What if it's used for pre workout? Pre Workout? Well, pre workout is great. If you're trying me and my son is all into pre workout. Gosh, I have to pry it out of his hands. But like

Kosta Yepifantsev:

instead of using the mix, just use coffee from pre workout. Is that okay? Coffee

Lisa Garcia:

on an empty stomach when you first wake up in the morning is going to cause a cortisol response which is going to eventually burn out your adrenals Okay, there you go. I mean, put some MCT oil or something in that thing so that it can regulate some sort of little fat and that's another thing when you take vitamin D certain vitamins, especially vitamin D, which is so important for your health. You got to take it with a fat so don't take a vitamin D pill. I have one that I buy this vitamin d3 k two that I put under my tongue and it's mixed with the MCT oil. And that's what it's supposed to be doing.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I mean I feel like I need to just quit my job and focus completely on my nutrition.

Lisa Garcia:

You don't have to be that rash. But I think you're doing great. But I do think like what you said you're 34 years old to age is on your side. So

Kosta Yepifantsev:

let's just say somebody decides to do intermittent fasting middle of the day, they have a big lunch and then they have a small dinner, right? Okay, that

Lisa Garcia:

they can do that. Or they can have a big lunch and no dinner. Okay, that's called omad. The one meal a day is very advantageous as well, as long as you stop eating before five, six,

Kosta Yepifantsev:

a good friend of mine, who I work with, he has a client that we care for that lives in adult foster care. He's 103. He's eaten one meal a day. That's right, though. Matt is amazing. Yeah, one meal a day. And he says that a lot of people that you know, are in the Blue Zones, I guess. Yeah. They also just eat one meal a day, because we don't I mean, at the end of the day, just imagine if you filled your car up every single day. You know what I'm saying? That just wouldn't make any sense.

Lisa Garcia:

We are sick because we're overeating. The food supply is awful. The water supply is awful. That's all true. But we're also gorging ourselves with way too much fruit that one meal a day is a huge benefit to the body. All right, let's

Kosta Yepifantsev:

talk about cleanse. We all want to look and feel our best for women, specifically, hormonal imbalances caused by the gut can be life changing and body altering. How can colon hydrotherapy reset the colon and your body and what's involved in this procedure? So

Lisa Garcia:

I'll just say that I have a lot of women that come to me for weight loss, and they find it. But it's not just it's not fat that they're losing. They're losing waist that stuck in their bodies. I mean, even the women that come to me and they say Oh, well, you know, I I go the restroom twice a day. And then they'll come in for a colonic, and by their second or third colonics. They're like, wow, like a Buick just came out of me. Like I can't believe all the stuff that's in the more colonics you do in the beginning, the more stuff comes out. It's just the way it works. Stuff is caked on. And so as far as the hormones go, a lot of women are having hormone issues right now. And a lot of the PCOS and all the other stuff that's happening right now. And what's PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome. And it's where the women are selling their ovaries just under ovaries, unexplained weight gain, low level inflammation, autoimmune stuff happening to very young girls. So we're talking like 1012 years old, all the way up to like its childbearing years is what it is. And I won't even go on the rabbit hole for that. But I will tell you that it balances hormones in women, just because the gut microbiome is able to reregulate itself. And so when you reregulate yourself, your whole body regulates, right, but that's how it works. So if the center of health, I think poverty is, as I said, like the center of all diseases in the gut, so the center of all health would be in the gut, too. Yeah. So I feel like women come in to me and they want to lose weight. A lot of our clients were navy seals in San Diego, they would come in to make weight, or regular people in the military were coming in to make weight and they would be doing intermittent fasting, they would be doing meal replacement shakes as well. And they would be doing colonics. And they do two a week over a six week period of time, and they would drop 25 pounds. But we want to do like the long haul the long term benefits of colonics. Right? So especially for women, yeah, they're losing impaction. But they're also losing cravings for sugar, which I'm seeing. We have a big ozempic and semaglutide. A lot of women that are taking that right now.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

How's that going? Can you like can we just stop right there and just park and tell me what your thoughts are on ozempic and semaglutide.

Lisa Garcia:

I am usually a nonpharmaceutical kind of gal. That being said, the thought behind the semaglutide. It's a peptide shot, right. And so I feel like it's not all that bad. If you've got insulin resistance and other things going on with your body. I don't think it's like the worst that you can do. But part of the problem with it, and part of how colonics fits in with it is that it slows down your digestion, which is why you're not eating as much. So if you're not eating as much and you're obese or you have insulin resistant, or you have other things going on, it's really great for you to stop taking in so much food, but then you get constipated. And then you're feeling lousy, because then your body is like at a snail's pace, right so that natural peristalsis of the colon is not happening. It's not squeezing your Colin's whole job is to squeeze liquid that comes from the small intestine after it's done absorbing all the nutrition and squeezing that liquid out and forming a stool. That's what our job is.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I've had friends who have been on the ozempic Manjaro shot and they have terrible stomach issues terrible.

Lisa Garcia:

And that's because their body is in a slow motion. Are

Kosta Yepifantsev:

they so is it genetics that they are just not a good candidate for this shot? Or can they change their diet to be able to take the peptide shot and not have the stomach issue

Lisa Garcia:

barring food sensitivities to certain things on the Mediterranean diet, I would assume based on everything that I've read that Mediterranean diet is very healthy for people on the semaglutide, the G it's called the GLP. One is what it is. And that's is that encompasses the ozempic and the Waco V and Manjaro. And all that stuff. Mediterranean diet is very balanced, it's very advantageous for people on that it, it helps because it's got a lot of fibers, a lot of fruits and vegetables and legumes, they're going to want to eat smaller portions, obviously, if you go into greens first or wherever these places are that serve Mediterranean food in the area and you order five giant falafel play. I mean, like, because here's the problem with people that are taking those shots, too, is that they're not getting any type of health coaching or behavior or lifestyle changes. So they will overeat. I mean, in the beginning, yeah, they'll start losing the weight and everything, but they eventually will overeat. Because if you're eating for a reason, other than hunger than food is not the answer. Right? So that's just I want to say that right off the bat like that, they will stuff themselves just like somebody that's had gastric bypass will stuff themselves.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

And I think we've established that you don't need that much food, you do not? Yeah,

Lisa Garcia:

you do not. You need about three handfuls of food a day, why you will not be sick, and you will not be starving. My grandparents were like, Oh, you have to eat everything on your plate in these giant meals because they grew up in the Depression. Sure. And they were all afraid of starving to death, right? For real, and I understand it. But when they're raising me as a Portuguese girl, and I'm so fat, I'm like a butterball and I'm like, This can't be right. I'm eating the same amount as my grandfather like, Oh, you're so cute. Are you hungry for your third breakfast? And it's like, like, they're all happy because they can afford to feed me. That's

Kosta Yepifantsev:

it right there. Because they have the money to be able my grandparents were the exact same when they came to America. All they did was just asked me if I wanted some food. And I was like, No, I'm not hungry. We just ate. They're like you sure you don't want anything else? Yeah, you sure you don't want anything else? And it was just like, it was their way of showing how much they loved me by feeding me. Right.

Lisa Garcia:

But the problem is, is that is that now we're all running around? And we're not I mean, like how much exercise to the average teenager get. I mean, if they're into sports, okay, great. But a lot of the teenagers that I'm seeing have like these little purple circles under their eyes, and they're just attached to their phones, and they don't really want to do much. They're playing video games. And so it's one big giant recipe for disaster because we're supposed to be exercising, and we're supposed to be spending time in the sun. And we're supposed to be grounding, which is take your shoes off and walk across your grass and the bare feet. It takes inflammation out of our bodies. But instead, people are sleeping with grounding mat. I mean, there's so much stuff going on with our health. But I feel like as far as women in weight loss go, yes, colonics are very helpful with that. And especially with the monitor arrow and all those shots because it helps clean the colon. I have a woman that's coming to me right now. And she's coming to me because it makes it gives her energy because the colon absorbs water. And so just like an IV will give you energy, the colon is a great way to hydrate your body. It's arguably even better than an IV in some circumstances. So you leave very happy and very up. I mean, of course, if you have an impaction problem, and you're having a really big event full colonic with me, right? Sometimes you might be tired. But that's a person that's tired after coming into me anxious, I'll take it. You want to be tired, you want to be relaxed. Okay, well, that's how it's affecting you. But most people are very energized, because it's very hydrating for their body.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

How does it work? You know, like to it's a G rated show, but you know, I mean, I'm assuming that somebody like a Is it like a prostate exam?

Lisa Garcia:

Not at all. In fact, it's really private. So a colonic, we use FDA regulated class to intimate devices and our open colonic system. The insertion is so small, it's like the size of your pinkie, you know, it's much smaller than a stool, and it's not uncomfortable. So it's already set up when you come into the office. And so your room is set up, you come in, you get undressed, you have a clean gown, you're given a glove, and you're given lubricant, and you lubricate your body and the end of the little nozzle, and you lay on the equipment and you do the insertion and you call me and I come in and you're completely covered. And I give you hot water ball and do a little bit of a belly massage and belly exam. And I turn the water on so slow. So anyone that's ever had an enema, that's like more of a of a hard squeeze, you know, and it's only a certain amount of, of liquid. So it only goes up to the four to seven inches of the larger of the colon. And that's all there is because that's the the rectum and it'll maybe empty out the rectum and small amount of the sigmoid colon, but this is like 16 liters over a 45 minute period of time. So it's a warm water it's micron filtered for the for, you know, for the city water, it's got UV lighting, for microorganisms, it's got temperature control and backflow prevention and flow control, it can't blow your colon, we vet you to make sure that you are a candidate that safe right, we keep it to 45 minutes because you're getting so much water and so great for you but you've got to process that for your kidneys. So if you're somebody with renal insufficiency is you're not a candidate for colon hydrotherapy, but it's very private and I put the water on very slow and low Oh, and you just hold yourself closed. Like as if you were holding an enema N and is 30 seconds or a minute, two minutes depends on the person. And when you feel full, you simply release the waters. If you're having a bowel movement, the insertion stays in you the whole time because you're in it, then you based on your proximity to it, and you see the water and waste come out and you're watching it all unfold. Wow, a lot of young people are seeing this on tick tock and because, you know, they don't care that they wasted it right. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm telling you, it's people end up loving it. And Leonardo DiCaprio and Kim Kardashian talked about, you know, other people that are in the public eye, they want to they want to extend their lives. But Mae West did colonics all the time, Princess Diana was big into colonics. So I mean, these are people that want to extend their life, and they want to not have things sitting in their body for too long.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

How'd you get into this? I mean, like, I know that you weren't growing up thinking I know what I'm going to do when I grew up. So how I mean, how did it happen?

Lisa Garcia:

I was a legal assistant for a long time, okay. And I was around a lot of lawyers, and I was going to be a lawyer until I realized that everyone goes to the noon meeting at lunchtime. And that's an AAA meeting. And I'm like, Why is everybody so stressed out and angry and smoking cigarettes at their desks when they're not supposed to be smoking in here and, and wires, everybody on their third wife and their kids are all sad. And so I decided not to be a lawyer. Because for me, I wanted to be a trial lawyer. So I stopped doing the legal secretary legal assistant stuff, and I started trying to do some self care. And colonics was something that I wanted to try because I was gonna go on a cruise, and they had some group honestly lose 10 pounds on a month, or whatever it is. And so I did it. And I fell in love with colonics. And so as I became more health conscious, I became a health coach first and I was like, Well, this is a part of it. My mom has lupus and other autoimmune conditions, stuff going on. And colon cancer was running rampant. And I just ran into that Chris war person, and you know, online, and I just really believed the more I learned about health, and the gut, the more I realized that that was really where it was. And so I just wanted to do and I wanted to do a whole new career change. And that's what I'm doing. I love it. I love it so much. It doesn't gross me out at all. I'll stare right at your poop and be like, hey, there goes. And people are like, I can't believe you do this for a living. And I said, believe it. Well,

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I mean, so let's, let's give some advice. When it comes to anything related to the colon, rectum, or but in general, people can feel a bit skittish No pun intended. For anyone that's feeling anxiety about how the insertion or the evacuation process works, smells, or feels, what's your advice?

Lisa Garcia:

My advice is to come in and try it, at least call me and book a free consultation to come in, we have these Discovery sessions that are 30 minutes long, I'll show you the whole spa, we'll go through everything. There are fans and apparatuses on the equipment that suck the odor out of the air, the rooms stay very clean. They have CDC, FDA regulated cleaners that I use, and they're very private. So that's the thing. I was telling Morgan, you know, a lot of miles so 1/3 of my clients are men and men that are in your position are not the ones that are embarrassed, okay, they love it. They're like, we're doing this with the older gentleman that park at the all these parking lot and walk or walk across the street. I'm like, here's my guy. He's like, Frogger he's trying to like, run and not get hit by the car. Or the guy that parks by Dr. Todd at the end of our of our complex, you know, they tell me Look, we believe this, you know, saved our life. We feel so much better. I can't give you a review. But I'll give you a word of mouth referral. And so that's, that's totally fine. Sure. They could just say, Hey, I tried the services and I feel so much better. But if they start getting into I was bloated or I was this or as then people are going to know what they're doing. And there's just a real stigma, especially in the south here. So in California, if you're one of my clients in California and you have $150 extra in your week, you're not going to get your eyebrows done or your eyelashes done before a colonic. Wow, you're just not Yeah, that's not what we do

Kosta Yepifantsev:

all around the world. People do enemas and colonics and all that stuff, and

Lisa Garcia:

that's how they're staying healthy. And that's and that's a big part of alternative treatment for cancer and other diseases, other inflammatory diseases. I have a lot of people that come into me there inflamed from tic diseases. So that alpha gal, the Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, the Lyme disease. I have a naturopath that sending me people from Franklin or Brentwood or something. And she believes I mean, I just had a woman came in today she had melanoma and she decided to not go to traditional route. She's seeing this naturopath who's like some sort of a chemist. She's amazing. Her name is Tamara. And she sent me this woman and she said the woman told me today she goes, I did the three colonics I'm gonna do three more. And she said that she believes the colon hydrotherapy is a big part of how my numbers have gone way way into range like they're supposed to be. So that's a huge deal for me to hear that.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

So your office is where? For 20

Lisa Garcia:

South low Avenue in Cookeville. So that's behind the absolute fitness in the old days. Yeah, it's

Kosta Yepifantsev:

by Baba Ganges.

Lisa Garcia:

It's Yeah, it's further down towards the big bar on the same side of the street as Bubba candies. Nice.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Nice. So how many of your clients are like locals? Are they primarily local people? Or do you get them from across the state across the country region,

Lisa Garcia:

I get them from Kentucky and Georgia, I get a lot of Knoxville people. As a matter of fact, I I have a lot I have a good Cookeville following, and upper Cumberland following but the place in Knoxville went out of business and 2020 or retired or something. So they were all going to Chattanooga, but now they're choosing me because of my reviews, because I have so many reviews I have like, and they're all five star that's probably between Facebook, Yelp and, and Google, I think I have almost 100, which is crazy because I've I've had over 500 clients, but a lot of practice filling is or they keep bugging me to open up there. They're like you should open up there. It's so much bigger and you will be rolling. And every time I come in here it's It's quiet. It's quiet, because it's a new business. It's a new concept. I have all the faith in the world that people in Cookeville and the surrounding counties are going to catch on. But I do have a lot of transplants do they come in? Yeah.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

And so this business opened in 2022.

Lisa Garcia:

It opened November the first part of November 2022. So yeah, it's very new.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I'm assuming just from this conversation, that there's not a lot of offices that perform this type of work. I mean, in the state of Tennessee, how many people do this Kalon these colonics? Well,

Lisa Garcia:

I'm not sure how many do them in the state of Tennessee, but I know that there's only six of us that are i x certified. Wow. Actually, sir, because there's an entire state and regulations for this. Just because there's no regulations for it doesn't mean you shouldn't be certified because you're dealing with people's health. And when you're certified, you can do things like get malpractice insurance like I have, or you know, for like 189 bucks a year like that's all I pay for $3 million in coverage because it's so safe when you know what you're doing. I know that I'm the only one doing open colonics in the upper Cumberland for sure. And I know that I'm getting a lot of that Knoxville traffic coming down to me. So there aren't too many of us that are certified. There's a Chattanooga there's a few and Franklin. Franklin has some amazing colon hydrotherapist over there as well. I had a woman come to me today from her. She referred the woman to me because she's only doing packages, and she's like $250 a colonic or something. So it's a lot different to price different branches a colonic for me a single open colonic is 125 Nice. You can buy two for 200. I have all kinds of specials and I have all kinds of memberships that people do so I do a lot of other things that are too so they electro lymphatic drainage, I do that as well, which is great before colonic because you can see the lymph come out in the colonic and I do far infrared sauna. Everything I do is to take toxins out and lower inflammation in your body. That's everything I

Kosta Yepifantsev:

do. So some of the things that you're saying, when I listen to Joe Rogan. He talks a lot about like grounding yourself and all that stuff. I have red light therapy, so I bought this Juve panel that I put on my wall, and I stand in front of it for five minutes a day on each side. Before I go to bed.

Lisa Garcia:

It's great for lowering inflammation in the body for sure. Yeah. And for us, we don't have a red light panel. But we have a far infrared sauna, which is like heats your body from the inside out like babies incubator, right? So it lowers inflammation that way blood pressure and stuff. And we have a red light therapy going on at the same time that gene therapy is an excellent product. Yeah,

Kosta Yepifantsev:

for sure. By this point in the episode, there might be a few people that are feeling skeptical or thinking that the body heals itself naturally, and there's no need to get in there and mess with the flow. What's your message to anyone that's thinking this,

Lisa Garcia:

we are not living in our grandmother's earth anymore. So we were absolutely created to fix ourselves. Our bodies are amazing. But our bodies are not filled any more with natural substances. So if you are living a natural life and you are not drinking the tap water and you're not drinking sweet tea, and you're not breathing the air with the chemtrails and all the other stuff they've got going on here, and you're living a life where you're taking time to breathe and meditate that absolutely your body is going to be regular and it's going to heal itself. But we have a lot of toxins coming our way that are engineered and lab and our bodies were not meant to break that down. A genetically modified seed. If you genetically modified a human, it wouldn't be a human anymore like it was supposed to be. So when you eat an ear of corn and it's genetically modified, it looks and smells and tastes like corn, it's not corn. So we're just giving our bodies a little bit of help in getting rid of chemicals from hair products. From nail nail product. I mean, everything has a chemical in it. So when you're spraying your hair with hairspray in the morning, you're ingesting all that everything gets passed through the colon everything is passed to the liver for sure. And we unburden the liver when we help with a colonic because our livers have over 500 functions. It's the hardest working organ in our body and the colon is tied directly into the liver. That's why a lot of people do come Coffee enemas, they like to release liver bile, they like to help the liver to be a healthier organ. Everybody has non alcoholic fatty liver, it seems our livers are just overtaxed and overburdened. So, yes, we can assume that our bodies are created to function in a healthy way, by themselves, but that's not the world we're in our babies are born with, like 200 and some 1000 chemicals in their umbilical cords. Even look that up online. It's craziness. If they're just it's just too much, yeah, too much for us to mitigate. So So I'm not saying you'll die without a colonic? I'm just saying that why not feel your best? Well, that's

Kosta Yepifantsev:

what I'm saying. So with regards to feeling your best, what does that look like for the daily person when they get a colonic?

Lisa Garcia:

Well, I have one lady that comes in. And she says to me, she comes in every other week. And she says, You know how I know it's time for my colonic because I can't think straight. So it really helps her with brain fog. So not everyone comes in there because they're constipated, or they have IBS symptoms. A lot of people come in there, because it's just a way to get rid of the stress in their bodies get rid of anything that might be stuck in there, the brain fog, the fatigue, the bloating, the gas. And a lot of it is not just from eating too fast. A lot of it's from what you're eating, how you're eating it, how late you're eating it, and you're not giving your body time to process it. So they're just coming in there to unplug. And to give their bodies that little bit of extra energy. Like I told you, the woman that came in today, she comes in because she has so much energy after her colonics. So everyone comes in for a different reason. But I feel like what I mainly hear from people is they've lost bloat, they don't feel bloated, and they don't feel fatigued. And the brain fog is a huge one.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I mean, Morgan and I are gonna go do it. I would love that. And you said you have to take three days, not like in a row or you have to take three days out of the schedule.

Lisa Garcia:

No, we have packages of three that we we recommend. So we're not supposed to recommend because we're not doctors. But if you're trying to come in there and you're trying to do a reset, there would be a minimum of three in California, they would tell you 12. But hear they'll look at you like you're crazy. So I'm going to say three, can you just do three, and we'd like to do maybe a Monday, Tuesday or Monday Wednesday because we want to capitalize on the hydration that we've given you people almost always tell me they see more action, they see more come out in the second or third colonic than they do the first one. But but people come in on their lunch hours. So you can come in at 10 o'clock in the morning and be out of there by 1045. And you're on your way. It's not like, you know, you're down for the count for the whole day people come in because it makes them feel better. There's no like downtime for this. It's like if you went in for an IV therapy, you know, Myers cocktail, or whatever they call it. And you're and you leave and you go on your way. I like to ask that they will do a minimum of three to six colonics just because I feel like it's going to help their health. And I'm going to get a great review. And people are going to trust me to help other people because the reviews are everything for me. Right? Because that's what makes people trust what we're doing.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Yeah, absolutely. So we always like to end the show on a high note, who is someone that makes you better when you're together?

Lisa Garcia:

I would definitely say my husband, my unsung hero, my husband is tall and quiet. And he he built that spa from the ground up. I mean, that used to be Spin City studio. So when I walked in there, there was black foam on the floor and there was no walls and him and his best friend who moved from California as well. They came and they they really put their heart into that place. And so my husband Ruben Garcia, I love him very much. And he moved here because I wanted to and he comes with me everywhere. He's a good sport, I drag him to the Cookeville lifestyle parties like drag him to everything I go to for the chamber and you know, he's going out with the dinner with me and a client. So he is somebody that really makes me better. He has nothing but patients for me. I sunk my life savings into this into this build and he didn't even bat an eye. He has so much confidence in me and he's always saying like I had a billboard by vertical coffee for a while and he took a video of it and send it to our kids of the family chat. He goes there's my wife, there's your mom, so I just want to thank him he definitely makes me better.

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