Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev

Season's Greetings with Andrew Buckner

November 20, 2023 Morgan Franklin Media Season 3 Episode 26
Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev
Season's Greetings with Andrew Buckner
Show Notes Transcript

Join Kosta and his guest: Andrew Buckner, Musician, Author and Editor-in-Chief of Cookeville Lifestyle Magazine.

This week we're celebrating Thanksgiving, biscuits and gravy, and all the ways we're better together. In the immortal words of Adam Sandler, "Love to eat turkey, 'cause it's good. Love to eat turkey, like a good boy should." Thank you to our special guest host and officiant of Questions from a Cornucopia: Caroline Moore.

Thelma’s Cornbread Recipe:
Ingredients:

  • 1 Cup Cornmeal
  • 1⁄3 Cup Self-Rising Flour (Mix Cornmeal and Flour Together)
  • 3⁄4 Cup Buttermilk
  • Cooking Oil
  • Non-Stick Cooking Spray (If Using Non-Seasoned Skillet)

Directions:

  1. Combine cornmeal and flour
  2. Add buttermilk until consistency is slightly thicker than pancake batter (usually 3⁄4 cup will suffice)
  3. Add 2 tbsp of cooking oil to small seasoned cast iron skillet (if using unseasoned skillet, spray a thin coating of cooking spray before adding oil)
  4. Pour mixture in skillet
  5. Place under 450 degree heat in oven (do not preheat)
  6. Cook for 25 minutes (until brown) and allow to cool before serving

Find out more about Andrew Buckner:
https://www.andrewbucknermusic.net/

Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev is a product of Morgan Franklin Media and recorded in Cookeville, TN.

This episode of Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev is made possible by our partners at Aspire Barber and Beauty Academy.

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Morgan Franklin:

This week on better together we're celebrating Thanksgiving and all the people that make us better when we're together. Please welcome our special guest host Caroline Moore with this week's guest, Andrew Buckner for questions from a cornucopia, a speed round of harvest delights to ring in the season of gratitude.

Caroline Moore:

Hello, it's your favorite Turkey Caroline and I am beyond excited and honored to once again deliver the rapid fire of a lifetime to the multitalented oh so generous, and omnipresent Andrew Buckner, are you ready, Andrew?

Andrew Buckner:

No, but let's do it.

Caroline Moore:

Okay, let's go. First up Thanksgiving lunch or dinner. Dinner, for sure. fried or baked turkey? Baked. Canned, or organic cranberry sauce? Neither they shouldn't exist. Controversial. Pumpkin or pecan pie. Pumpkin. Alright, now what is your favorite Thanksgiving dish?

Andrew Buckner:

My favorite Thanksgiving dish would have to be gravy and rolls together.

Caroline Moore:

That's a good, that's good. Now, if you could have any musician play at your Thanksgiving meal, who would it be?

Andrew Buckner:

Chris Daly from Nickel Creek? No doubt about it. Well, I'd

Caroline Moore:

have you this way.

Andrew Buckner:

I'd have a Nickel Creek instead.

Caroline Moore:

Okay, now would you rather cook the Thanksgiving meal or clean the dishes? Cook? Yeah, I'm I would clean. I'm a bad cook. You don't want me cooking your Thanksgiving meal?

Andrew Buckner:

Would you even want me cooking it either, but I like to cook. So.

Caroline Moore:

Would you rather run a turkey trot? or attend a football game? Football game for sure. Me too. And I don't even like football. But I will not be trotting. All right, thanksgiving parade or the Westminster Dog Show? thanksgiving parade. Now at the thanksgiving parade. Do you prefer the Snoopy balloon? Or the charlie brown balloon?

Andrew Buckner:

Charlie Brown.

Caroline Moore:

And finally, Black Friday, or Cyber Monday?

Andrew Buckner:

Cyber Monday. I'm allergic to Black Friday. Log Me In the house. Get away from the

Caroline Moore:

crowds. Oh, and of course I gotta ask what or who are you most thankful for?

Andrew Buckner:

I'm thankful for my wife, Brenda, she helps keep me as sane as whatever this is. She helps level me off and get me through the rough day. So I'm very grateful for her. Well,

Caroline Moore:

Andrew, this concludes another iconic Thanksgiving rapid fire. I'm so excited to hear you on the show and Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Morgan Franklin:

Welcome to Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev, a podcast on parenting business and living life intentionally. We're here every week to bring you thoughtful conversation, making your own path to success, challenging the status quo, and finding all the ways we're better together. Here's your host, Kosta Yepifantsev.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Hey, y'all, it's Kosta. Today I'm here with my guest, Andrew Buckner, musician, author and editor in chief of Cookeville Lifestyle Magazine. Andrew, it's impossible to define who you are or what you contribute to our community with a title for many titles. This year, you've taken on the role of editor in chief for Cookeville. Lifestyles magazine, while continuing your career as a writer and musician. Our audience might not know after you graduated from TTU. In 2010, you became an insurance agent. How do you go from selling insurance to full time creative?

Andrew Buckner:

I love that question. Well, when I graduated college, that was in 2010. So I was entering economic crisis in the recession. So I took a job at I read Express when I was 22. Doing customer service, I was the slowest on my team at 80 calls a day nice. I got an opportunity to go through insurance, which I thought Anything's better than answering phone calls. So I went to an insurance agency where I answered phone calls all day and wrote policies and took payment and filed claims. I did it in my hometown. So I knew everyone's backstory, it was in Monterey, very tight knit community. I did that for a few years. And I became very disenchanted with it. It was a it was a very poor fit for creative. And I had an opportunity to come and work in human resources in Viet morale officer for a company and I transition there and then that kind of gave me the freedom to actually think for the first time to get out of across the cycle. And I got an opportunity to go rat and Knoxville and it was more fertile ground for me to receive that opportunity. I was able to say yes to it. We relocated to Knoxville and I did script writing and narrative construction and ran second camera for videography company. And it gave me a taste of what the creative life could be like and I was doing creativity for a living from there. When we decided to move back. I thought I'm just going to go for it. And I started freelancing, and I started writing resumes and I started writing listings for realtors and editing my friend's copy on their websites and then I slowly started writing with Chelsea over time. I just built up a book of business and then continue to play shows throughout all that. So it's been a wild journey, but one that it kind of makes sense. Whenever he pulled back, it didn't in the moment while I was living it, but from a higher level view, it makes sense. So

Kosta Yepifantsev:

like when you were a kid, were you always excited about the book report? Like you were just like jazz? Like, I can't wait to write this. I mean, when others what is writing mean to you? And how did it become something that's such a big part of your life? Well,

Andrew Buckner:

it's weird. To answer your first part, yes, the Scholastic Book Fair was the most exciting thing for me. And you know, when we had the writing assessment in sixth grade and 11th grade, like I was all about it, I think I got a six out of six. So I was like, there's the see there of some things. So

Kosta Yepifantsev:

you know, it's good. Well,

Andrew Buckner:

I definitely didn't at the time, and I know more of what I'm doing now that, but then when I graduated high school, I was attending Tennessee Tech, and the Herald citizen had a sports journalism position open and I was covering my hometown sports, I went from job shadowing on a Thursday to writing an article the next day. So I spent the next five years learning how to, not in a professional sense, because I definitely wasn't making a living doing that, but in a semi professional sense, write and express myself. So the bug was always there. And the romantic ideal of a laugh to me was always Hemingway in a room or CS Lewis, and whoever it may be, that was even more so than the life of a touring musician. The romantic ideal was a house with a big window and a guy smoking a cigar lating and writing on that

Kosta Yepifantsev:

movie, the window by Johnny Depp. Is that what it's secret windows?

Andrew Buckner:

Except less madness.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

Okay. I'm starting to gauge a theme here. So there are so many parts of your life that feels serendipitous. And as someone that believes in the power of fate, I want to know if there were any clues or signs from the universe that you were on the right path?

Andrew Buckner:

You know, I think, yes. And I think it came in the form of conversations, there were these guidepost conversations where I would meet a hero of mine. And whether they believed it or not, they would encourage me to keep going and to keep working and to work on guitar to continue to rap. And they seem to come at moments where I could have easily leaned into a corporate laugh, which is a great life, but not a life that I wanted for me. And so I feel like the serendipitous part was that the right people came along at the right time to give me just enough nudge to maybe get three weeks or a month, or a month and a half of encouragement to keep working on guitar in my bedroom or to keep writing. And so yeah, there's definitely been a serendipitous component to it. And it's come in the form of other people.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

So if you have this vision of wanting to be the author just writing these sensational novels, fiction or nonfiction regardless, but then you're also playing the guitar, and you're, you know, obviously, excelling as a musician. And I know, we talked a little bit about kind of like your background in movies. So if you packaged it all together, what's the dream job?

Andrew Buckner:

You know, the dream job is probably to be an acoustic guitar player that plays house concerts for 30 to 50. People are not okay to tell stories, to enhance evenings to be conversation starters, to give a fertile environment for people to connect. That's kind of my dream. You know, there's this kind of pervasive thought of it's, you know, celebrity or bust. To me, nothing could be farther from the truth. You know, one of my favorite quotes is Dave Matthews. He said, I think I only have 35,000 fans, but they come to every show I play. And to me have it an audience and a body of work, whether it's a small audience, a big one, a tiny one, I don't care to have a body of work that I'm proud of. and a small audience that connects with that, or any audience that connects with it is kind of my dream. And just being a connecting point for people through art, whether it be through writing or through music. That's kind of the dream. And I'm kind of getting to live it in a way like it's, you know, scattered right now, because I'm doing so many things. But if I had to pin it down to one category, it would probably be playing small concerts 150 units a year.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

And you know, when it comes to being a creative, and I mean, I guess I could kind of call myself a creative to an extent, I'm sure, I'd say Morgan probably is more of the creative in the bunch. I feel like it's hard. Because, first off, you're very much in high demand. I mean, there are people all across every single community across the United States that need, whether it's graphic design, whether it's audio engineering, whether it's producing a podcast, whatever it might be, but it's expensive, because you are in such high demand that you are so valuable, that you can only have a small group that you can actually work with that are able to afford your services. Or if you take the other side of the coin, you're going to have to work like 50 different clients. So like how do you find time for yourself when you are going from one end, working with somebody over here to working with somebody over there is it hard to find time for you?

Andrew Buckner:

It is and you probably experienced this too. Having the time and being calm enough and present enough to enjoy that time are two completely separate things. I try to end every A alone. Honestly, I try to take an hour and a half every day to be alone. And if it's the same YouTube video I watched the day before, while I look at my fantasy basketball bets for the day, you know, that's fine.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

How are your beds doing? Yeah,

Andrew Buckner:

I'm up 1700 On a yes. I'm waiting to hit a big one because every gambler ever since. But the cool thing is, over the last six months, I've been able to narrow my focus a lot. And there's these beautiful aspects of our community and these businesses and these people that I've getting to pour into, you know, glass tangerine is a really big part of my life now in the crab tree and her team over there. You know, I get to they're some of my best friends. She's wonderful. She's insanely great and has no competitive spirit and just wants everyone to succeed and helps all these other businesses. So I've put a lot of my energy in that. And I've been able to lighten my load just a little bit. And narrowing my focus is definitely helping me do better work, I think. And also be happier doing the work. You got kids, no kids. And I'm Chester who rolls our life in our house.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

But you have a spouse, right? Yes. Okay, nice. Very cool. So I'll tell you, one of the biggest things for me is the component of having children and finding time to also spend time with them. That's something that it's a non negotiable thing. You know what I'm saying? And so, I'm still working on I talk about a lot on this podcast, I'm still working on trying to find time for my kids enough time that it's meaningful for myself and for them as well. Let's talk about Cookeville lifestyle magazine. Yeah. Through Cookeville lifestyles, you've had the unique opportunity of telling the stories and sharing the legacy of some of Coco's most influential and impactful community members. Is there anything that surprised you about getting to know this group of individuals?

Andrew Buckner:

Absolutely. The biggest thing, especially in their like, political realm, is if there's a parenthese, with an RNN or an IRA day, it hasn't mattered. Everyone has been incredibly kind. And I've seen that the Venn diagram, the center circle in this community is so much bigger than ever, certainly, I've seen the servants, you know, whether it be Lauren or Randy, or whoever you want to name Rob Owens, just the list goes on. I mean, Morgan's mom and dad are a great example. It's selfless people that want to succeed, and they're driven and they're hungry. But man, they're just as hungry for their neighbor's success as they are their own. Yeah. And that has been incredible to

Kosta Yepifantsev:

see they're dedicated to the community as a whole. Yes, you know, they're trying to bring everybody with them. It's like not one, there's not a single person that I've seen featured in the magazine, that's not reaching out to people that maybe have had a bad day or going through something like hey, how can I help come on, or somebody that's, you know, starting something new or a new cause championing for them, helping them financially, it's a network of leaders. And that that is a through line that I've taken from a lot of our conversations with Cookeville. That is, the strongest aspect of our community is we have a network of leadership that goes beyond our political ideologies, our personal, you know tiffs that we might have had, going all the way back to elementary school, you know, when you got into a fight on the playground, or some crazy like that. But I got to ask, though, like, when you do meet these people, and you realize specifically the people that have the AR, the eye or the D, and they're just a regular person, do you ever reflect back and just say, like, Gosh, I wish they could be like this all the time. I wish they weren't kind of put into this weird box where they have to be somewhat polarizing.

Andrew Buckner:

You know, less than that. I feel shame at the boxes that I've put people in. I've labeled people based on their, whatever worldview they have, and I base it on other people's opinions. And over the last six months, I've learned I'm never doing it again. You know, it's gonna be about our personal relationship, how you treat me and how you treat those around me. And that's been what I've learned. If I've learned anything from the magazine, it's been that I've been misguided in where I've placed my affection and love and admiration and respect. And that's definitely changed for me, for sure. Complex.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

We're all complex, complex. So here's the truth. You can never make everyone happy. Cookeville lifestyle magazine has rubbed some people the wrong way, whether they think it's self serving or elitist, or just downright unnecessary. There are always people quick to criticize. What do you say to those people?

Andrew Buckner:

That's a great question. I do believe that is definitely the case. I think it's overwhelmingly been received positively. But with any type of publication or creative outlet, there's going to be criticism, but I'll say Chelsea that owns and runs the magazine. I know her heart and I know my heart and I know what our passions are and what our end goals are. We're not doing this to make money or to be known. We're doing it because there's a lot of beautiful stories that have never been told in this community. I mean, we have a shared friend, you and Tina Francis. She's amazing. She's existed in the shadows and she's changed countless labs, you know, and if this magazine if there was only one article published and It was harder than it's been worth all the work. And so criticism is great, some of it is warranted, it's making a sharper, mechanist better, it's making us think more about our community and see it through other lenses and through those that are marginalized or might not be celebrated as much as they deserve. So we're ever growing and expanding and changing and reevaluating it or stepping back and saying, How can we be better? So to those that are critical of it, hope that in a year, you've seen the problems diminish, right.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

And that's the beauty of it. It's just like any business, you know, you take the criticism, because that's the feedback that you need to get better. Honestly, the magazine has only improved issue by issue. And so I can't even imagine was great when it launched, I didn't think it could honestly improve. But when I opened I just, you know, I was reading Randy Porter's the most recent issue while we were getting ready for the podcast, and I was just like, this is just lights out. This is amazing. And is this something that's being produced locally by someone in Cookeville? A team of people in Cookeville, obviously, I guess I just have to ask, what kind of criticism could people possibly have?

Andrew Buckner:

I think it most of it comes from a good place. I think most of it comes from people that love their friends. Yeah. And want their friends to be celebrated. And what I would say is they're gonna get celebrated. Yeah. You know, it may say most influential and it may say, movers and shakers and everything. But it's not the only most influential people are the only movers and shakers, that we want to celebrate this entire community. And if there's a great story to be told, we're going to try to mine it and we're going to try to share it and we're going to try to make connecting points between people that may not realize that there are a lot a lot.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

When I started college, I had no idea what I wanted to be when I grew up. Maybe that's why it took me 14 years to graduate. getting an education is what you make it and that's a lesson I've had to learn the hard way. Today's episode is presented by our partners at Aspire barber and Beauty Academy and Aveda concept school providing a one of a kind education experience to aspiring barbers and beauty professionals with over 52 years of real world experience. Aspire instructors are equipped with the hands on knowledge to help you become the stylist you're meant to be. And I'll tell you, I can't wait for you guys to find like that one person that you know you never expected. And you get them in the magazine and you you listen to their story and you write their story. And you're just like, oh my goodness, some of the best podcasts that I've ever had were people that I'd never met I'd never heard of. And they come in and I'm just like, My mind is blown. Justin Beals was a great example. I've never met Justin before, I don't know anything about him, you know, and he comes in and he just lays down the gauntlet. So anyway, can't wait for that period. I want to talk about your work as a musician and artist. You released your first EP in 2017 coffee and a good book and your second EP in 2023 coffee and a good book volume two. These are both solo acoustic albums that feel exactly like the peace and familiarity of coffee, and a good book. As an instrumentalist. What does success in music look like to you?

Andrew Buckner:

I touched on it a little bit earlier, but creating something that's taken so many hours in the bedroom alone to work on to practice this crazy, high and low, you know, craft to make something even if it's a tiny audience that is celebrated, don't say celebrate, don't care about being celebrated, if it resonates with someone, and if it I mean, I'm someone who deals with depression and anxiety, and you know, it's like I know, little tiny pieces of art can be like the macro savior of a day, you know, and it's like, if my little song paired with a podcast I love or a movie rescued somebody for a day, then that's incredible to me, that lifts me up and keeps me going. You

Kosta Yepifantsev:

could have stayed as an insurance agent, you could have continued to work at a root even though I know working in customer service eight hours a day is very difficult. You could have continued to be head of morale for an HR, you know, why pick something so hard? I know I kind of asked that question a little earlier on. But you could have done something a lot easier than than what you're doing. Now.

Andrew Buckner:

What's funny, I appreciate the way that you frame that because you don't think about that light when you're living it. If you have that artistic fire inside of you trying to suppress it takes just as much energy as living it. You know, when I lived all these years thinking that's not possible. And I can't have that type of community and I can't go on stage with this type of person. You know, when I kept working, and I'm still working, I'm far from where I want to be as a musician or a writer, but it's incremental, tiny growth that you can't see when you look in the mirror that when you've been lifting weights for three weeks, and then you can't see it in three months. You can't see much of a change but your friends can and your family can because they're not looking at it through your own eyes. And so to see this growth and to look back to step out of myself and say, Hey look, be happy with where you're at and be happy with what you're getting. to do and so yeah, it's been hard, but I'm so thankful. Have

Kosta Yepifantsev:

you your biggest credit? Oh,

Andrew Buckner:

100% before you walked in, I was already thinking like, man, that segment I did with Carolina, I could have done a lot better on that. So yeah, I'm definitely my own worst critic. I'll play a show where I have to do improv guitar for two hours. And I'll be like, Man, I really messed up the solo on the 14th song. What were you thinking? Why did you try that? You shouldn't try that idea. And I'm like, you're having to create something for two hours Shut up. So at least now I can argue with myself pretty well. Yeah. And

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I'm sure it'll get easier, you know, with time as you get older, right. I mean, I look at like Dave Matthews. And he was producing albums. Like, all the time, he was always in the spotlight. And then he got to like, 5055. And he's like, You know what, me and Tim Reynolds. We're just gonna go hang. Yeah, we need 35,000 fans to come to every show. And that's all we need. You know, I'm saying, yeah, and

Andrew Buckner:

let's open a vineyard. Yeah.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I know, storytelling is something you're incredibly passionate about. And as this episode is celebrating the start of the holiday season and Thanksgiving, I want to talk about your favorite Thanksgiving tradition and how it started. Well,

Andrew Buckner:

every Thanksgiving, we go to my grandma's house, which I've got a recipe of hers to share, maybe at some point, but her name is Thelma and we get to her house every Thanksgiving. And she makes this incredible spread of food, her homemade gravy, and Turkey and homemade dressing and all this incredible stuff. So eating my grandma's food is my favorite Thanksgiving tradition.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I'll tell you, if anybody hasn't listened to the Thanksgiving episode. Last year, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. It's incredible dude. And I will tell you, alright, so you know, like when I was talking about the cooking on the square, like I started myself starting Monday so that I can eat as much as I can on Friday. So Thanksgiving, I haven't eaten any at all in November. So I'm just gonna go ahead and wait until I get all the way to Thanksgiving guys. I'm joking. By the way I don't like starving myself. But I will say I love everything that Thanksgiving represents because it's one of those days where a lot of people it's Christmas. You know, for a lot of people it is for me it's not because Christmas is just so hectic. There's like, you know, presents, there's trash. My OCD is like through the roof. I've got trash bags I need honestly, I need like a helper on Christmas. However Thanksgiving, we also go to Jessica's parents house and they cook and it's food. It's football. And it's family. And they obviously want us to leave after the food. But I'm like, Nah, I'm stay like the sun's going down. You know, at this point, we've watched football all day just because mom's like, hey, I want to watch some TV too. And so she puts on like some old movie. She only watches the ion channel. She watches law and order. And like old movies that come on. Like I think we watched Twister last year or something like that. But yeah, man. It's the it's my favorite holiday. It's the best holiday of all time. Oh, yeah.

Andrew Buckner:

Have you heard the Thanksgiving song by Ben Rector? No, I'll send it to you. You're gonna sing it right now. Just don't watch it when anybody's around because you'll be stopping it come out in like 2021. And it's, I'll send it to you. Okay, we're gonna talk about it anymore, because I can't do

Kosta Yepifantsev:

it justice. Well, and I'll tell you the thing about Thanksgiving for me, I guess is like, and we're just going to talk about Thanksgiving guys. Because I mean, it's our Thanksgiving episode. So why not? We talked about everything else. Now it's time to talk about Thanksgiving. When we came from Russia, there is no Thanksgiving in Russia. Let's just start there. More importantly, No one ate turkey. Yeah, they ate goose or duck. Right. So our first Thanksgiving, my mom made a goose, not a turkey. And I had to explain to her the next year because you know, at this point, they're talking about it in class. So I realized like pilgrims, you know, indigenous people. And there's a turkey there. We embraced it. It was one of those holidays. I mean, we put our own little spin on it. We brought the vodka and the pickles out. But ultimately, we embraced it. And it was something that brought our family together more than really any other holiday. And that's the beauty of Thanksgiving is you know, you can spend a day where you're unplugged, where you're not worried about what's going on around you. Everything's closed. Everything's going to be closed the next day, and you get to just exist with your family. Yeah, that's a wonderful day, the recipe before we wrap up, it wouldn't be Thanksgiving without telling a few family secrets. Will you tell us about your favorite Thanksgiving dish and how we can make it okay,

Andrew Buckner:

so mine's a little bit layered. It's cornbread that my grandma makes, which is my favorite thing that she makes and it's a recipe that was handed down to her from her mother in law, but you can also use this for stuffing. So the ingredients are very simple. One cup cornmeal, 1/3 cup self raising flour, three fourths cup buttermilk, cooking oil and nonstick cooking spray. The direct winds are super simple to sew. Combine the cornmeal and flour. Add buttermilk until the consistency is slightly thicker than pancake batter. That's usually about three fourths of a cup. Then add two tablespoons of cooking oil to a small seasoned cast iron skillet. If you don't have one, that's no problem. Just spray a coating of cooking spray on the cast iron skillet before adding the cooking oil. Pour your flour and cornmeal mixture into the skillet. And then place that in the oven at 450 degrees and do not preheat your oven, just let it heat as it goes along. It usually takes about 25 minutes to cook. But when it's a beautiful brown on top, you'll know it's ready to pull out and cool off.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

And that's it. That sounds incredible. Oh, it's

Andrew Buckner:

amazing. It's so crispy can have some Oh, I can like just I'll just take

Kosta Yepifantsev:

a square like a little square like next time you see me running just like pull it out of your pocket and be like, Hey, I've been waiting for you.

Andrew Buckner:

I'll carry a cast iron skillet around the west side just in case we run up on each other.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I mean, if you have a skillet in your hand between the hours of nine and 11, you have a pretty good chance of seeing me on the west side.

Andrew Buckner:

If you're in the west side, you have a pretty good chance of seeing me.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

See what I see walking across the street all the time, but you're always in a hurry. And you're going from one from one side of the west side to the other and back. And it's so true. There's somebody that's like following you and they're just trying to keep up just like you're on a mission. Yeah.

Andrew Buckner:

And I'm always waving at you. I'm always like live in both directions. Like thank you so much for honoring the simple traffic rule. Yeah, the crosswalk is a real thing.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

I'm so happy that you let me use this crosswalk. Thanks. So remember guys, before we get to our final question, a crosswalk means that if you're driving and somebody wants to cross the street, you have to stop and allow them to cross the street. So there is no stop sign. There is no traffic light. It's just a simple crosswalk, but you do have to stop and yield to pedestrians is my

Andrew Buckner:

favorite PSA of all time.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

So we always like to end the show on a high note, who is someone that makes you better when you're together?

Andrew Buckner:

Obviously my wife I mean, she has helped me navigate anxiety and depression and the creative life and the ebb and flow of oil. That person said something great to me and that person doesn't think I'm good enough you know that the high and low the roller coaster of being a creative so having her along for the journey and the lot that she brings to it is a huge gift to me.

Kosta Yepifantsev:

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Morgan Franklin:

Thank you for joining us on this episode of Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev. If you've enjoyed listening and you want to hear more, make sure you subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you find your podcasts. Leave us a review or better yet, share this episode with a friend. Today's episode was written and produced by Morgan Franklin post production mixing and editing by Mike Franklin. Want to know more about Kosta visit us at kostayepifantsev.com. We're better together. We'd like to remind our listeners that the views and opinions expressed during this episode are those of the individual speakers and do not necessarily represent or reflect the official policy or position of this show its producers or any related entities or advertisers. While our discussions may touch on various topics of interest, please note that the content is intended to inspire thought provoking dialogue and should not be used for a substitute for professional advice.Specifically, nothing heard on this podcast should be construed as financial, legal, medical or any other kind of professional advice. We encourage our listeners to consult with a professional in these areas for guidance tailored to their specific circumstances.